Being 6 feet under feared more than 6 years in jail
This debate includes the need to address the risk of youngsters having weapons with them to make them feel safe;
young offenders who feel there is inadequate protection offered them by adult protectors such as teachers, police
and parents, and that there’s nothing really that can be done to turn back the tide of knife crime. Also, as number
of fatal stabbings rise, the effectiveness of the criminal justice system and harsher prison sentences is questioned
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Knife crime has been one
of the hot policing topics
throughout the UK over the
last year. Major cities experience
the vast majority of
knife crime and London is on top
of the list. In 2007 there were 16
fatal stabbings of teenagers in
London and a further 22 London
teenagers have been fatally
stabbed up to October 2008.
The police, Home Office and
local authorities have all contributed
ideas as to why such
serious crime, generally committed
by young people, should be
on the increase and new policies
have been introduced to address
this problem.
Whilst most of the focus has
been on policing, it seems the problem starts long before police
involvement or contact. Poor
parenting plays a major part on
how a child grows up and if parents
fail to set clear boundaries
children will resort to dangerous
activities.
Years ago teachers played a
major part in setting boundaries
but today their hands are tied
and the police can’t take strong
decisive action without being
criticised by human rights groups,
the media and parents.
At one time, policing was the
final boundary for those who failed
to respond to the best efforts of
parents and teachers but now
police efforts have been so undermined
by red tape and political
correctness that their effectiveness
has been substantially
lessened.
Stronger laws and tougher
sentencing has also been tried
but with the shortage of prison
spaces, prison as the ultimate
deterrent no longer has the
desired effect when teenagers
know that if they get sentenced
to detention or prison it is unlikely
they will serve their full sentence – and some may serve no
sentence at all.
Liberal Democrat Simon
Hughes debate on youth
violence and the victims
On a wet day in July this year I
was standing in my constituency
with a large number of people
ready to pay tribute, by laying
flowers and saying a few words,
to young David Idowu.
He had died a few days
before, aged 14, in the Royal
London hospital, despite the very
best efforts of our health service
to save his life. He was taken
there three weeks earlier after
being stabbed in the park, near
where we gathered, just next to
where he lived.
Having come home from
school he had gone out to join
other youngsters to play football,
as any 14-year-old might be
expected to do in the summer.
He had no history of violence
and had been a model pupil; his
family were a loving, Christian
family whom I knew. Suddenly,
David was attacked and stabbed
and within three weeks he had
lost his life.
The South London Press, not
because it seeks to glamorise
such things, had the headline:“He never stood a chance”,
which was followed by the subheadline: “20-year-old killed in
gang hit”.
The background to the
debate is not, for me, party political:
I do not seek to worsen the
position but to reflect on the fact
that, clearly, as all colleagues
know, we have had a terrible
spate of horrible violent crimes
in London affecting our young
people.
Not that other things have
not happened elsewhere in the
country – I woke up this morning
to the sad news that a youngster
had been killed in Merseyside
in a similar way.
I want to share reflections on
the position and to suggest that
among all the extremely good
work that is being done, there are
signs of hope and how, together,
we can ensure that it does not
simply carry on, and that we are
not fatalistic about it.
As well as being a lawyer, I
was a youth leader in Southwark
just off the Old Kent Road before
I came into politics.
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Look sharp:In 2006 PC Alan Hancock of South Yorkshire gave teenagers a lesson in dangers of carrying
knives; Howard League for Penal Reform says targeted investment in education is vital to tackle knife crime |
I learned the value of working
with young people, and of doing
things that turned them from
becoming adult troublemakers to
being good citizens.
I can think of many people
who were pretty rough characters
in their teens, for whom there
was a high risk that things might
go wrong, who turned out to be
absolutely model citizens in our
community – I have known some
such people for 25 or 30 years.
One of the helpful briefings
that were sent to me ahead of
this debate was from the Greater
London authority.
The GLA officers, on behalf
of the Mayor of London and the
London assembly members,
make the point, which I want to
make early in this debate, that
although we have youth violence
in Greater London, it is perpetrated
by only a minuscule proportion
of our young people and
that, mercifully, only a small proportion
of our young people are
victims – the mayor and the GLA
put the figure at one per cent.
One key message that I hope
we will get across is that almost
all our young people are good,
upright, law-abiding, well-behaved
people who want to live full adult
lives without criminality. We have
to support and encourage them.
The worrying thing, from the
evidence, is that many more than
one per cent of them are worried
and fearful that they are not safe.
There is an increasing climate
of fear about the lack of
security for young people that we
need to address because if
youngsters do not feel safe there
is a risk that they will do what
they think necessary to make
them safe, which may involve
taking weapons out with them. In the end, that may make them
far less safe than before.
Offenders asked why
they carry a weapon
The Howard League for Penal
Reform recently published a
book that examines teenage knife
crime in London by interviewing
young people themselves.
The author of Why carry a
weapon?, prison governor Nicola
Marfleet, conducted interviews
with under 18s in custody at
Feltham prison and young people
who had been excluded from
school and were attending two
pupil referral units (PRUs) in
Haringey and Hackney.
The book’s findings demonstrate
that children start carrying
knives early, with London boys
significantly at risk of entering
into weapon-carrying from as
young as 11 years.
Reasons given by the young
people interviewed for carrying
knives were based around protection,
fear and the anticipation
of being attacked, as well as experiences
of personal victimisation.
Other reasons revealed by
the interviews include poor
parental ties, which had arguably
been replaced by the strong
social ties of a gang. Gangs
also offered the young people
protection.
The children interviewed
described how they felt there was
inadequate protection offered
them by “natural” adult protectors
such as teachers, the police
or their parents.
One focus group in a PRU
unanimously said “no” when
asked “do you think the police
can protect you?”
Nicola Marfleet questions
the effectiveness of the existing
criminal justice system, knife
amnesties and harsher prison
sentences. Two boys currently
serving prison sentences in
Feltham described why prison
sentences for knife possession
did not deter young people.
“Marc” said: “They only say
four years to stop you but it doesn’t. No – ‘cos you can’t just stop
carrying a knife because you
might get four, five years. You’ve
got worries… I’d rather have a
shank and flick it out and start
wetting man than get stabbed
myself…
“OJ” said: “He wouldn’t be
thinking about six years in prison,
he’s probably thinking he’s going
to be six foot deep if he don’t
carry one.”

Nicola Marfleet said: “My
book suggests that using prison
sentences to deter knife possession
have, at best, a limited
impact on whether young people
carry knives.
“The young people I interviewed
spoke about their ‘enemies’,
who all carried knives and
about how they were always
anticipating attack, living under a constant fear of reprisal from
other gangs who were armed
and, therefore, they also needed
to be.
“Several young people spoke
honestly about their desire to live
in a world where they didn’t need
to carry a knife, but most felt that
it had ‘gone too far now’ and that
there was nothing really that
could be done to turn back the
tide of knife crime.”
Director of the Howard
League for Penal Reform, Frances
Crook, said: “There has been a
huge amount of investment by
the Government in policing,
enforcement, the court process
and custodial sentencing.
“However, when we are talking
about children as young as
eleven carrying knives and a rising
number of fatal stabbings in
London, we have to question
whether the criminal justice system
alone can tackle this problem.
“We are particularly concerned
that sending children to
prison for carrying knives will
only exacerbate their problems
and expose them to more hardened
criminal behaviour.
“We need to understand why
children are carrying knives and
tackle the causes directly.
“Targeted investment in
health and education, as well as
community projects that value
young people and the skills they
can offer, are vital if we are to
find lasting solutions to knife
crime.”
This study is interesting as it
is based on talks to the young
people themselves and its findings
suggest that the Government
needs to shift its focus to a multiagency
approach that goes further
than simply the criminal
justice sector.
Author Nicola Marfleet is a
prison governor at Pentonville
prison in London. Why carry a
weapon? was written as part of a
master’s course in applied criminology
at Cambridge University.
She has emphasised that the
views expressed in the book are
her own and do not necessarily
reflect those of the National Offender
Management Service. Why
carry a weapon? can be ordered
online at www.howardleague.org
Government action
As part of the Government’s
wider action on youth crime, an
extra £3 million to keep young
people safe in the ten Tackling
Knives Action Programme police
forces was recently announced
by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.
Earlier this year the Home
Secretary outlined plans to focus
a programme of action on knife
crime and announced an initial
investment of £2 million. The ten
areas taking part in the Tackling
Knives Action Programme are
London, Essex, Lancashire, West
Yorkshire, Merseyside, West
Midlands, Greater Manchester,
Nottinghamshire, South Wales
and Thames Valley.
The new money will go
towards rolling out:
● After-school patrols: a visible
police presence on the routes
to and from schools
● Safer School Partnerships: a
dedicated police officer allocated
to a school or group of
schools to promote safety and
work with young people at
risk of victimisation, offending,
poor behaviour or attendance
● Operation Staysafe: police
using safeguarding laws to
remove young people at risk
from the streets at night and
take them to a place of safety.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith
said: “With more police officers
patrolling the streets, we are
emphasising our core message
that young people do not need
to carry a knife for protection – it
makes you less safe, not more –
and these additional police are
there to help protect you.”
Children’s Secretary Ed Balls
said: “Schools are one of the
places that young people feel the
safest and, fortunately, knife
crime inside schools is incredibly
rare. This announcement will
make sure schools remain the
safe haven they have always
been, preventing young people
from being drawn into knife
crime outside the school gate.
“We know that prevention is
the best form of action in stopping
young people from getting
involved in bad behaviour in the
first place.
“By helping the ten priority
areas in establishing Safer
School Partnerships, police and
schools can work together to
educate and inform young people
about their responsibilities to be
law-abiding citizens.
“The Government cannot
tackle youth crime alone but by
providing support to communities
and by listening to young
people themselves, we can all
contribute to developing solutions
in our effort to deter young
people from getting involved in
crime.”
DAC Alf Hitchcock, head of
the Tackling Knives Action
Programme and ACPO lead on
knife crime, said: “Young people
tell us that the period after school
can be when conflicts arise
between different groups and an
increase in police presence and
in other visible signs of authority
can help them be and feel safe
and secure.
“This additional funding will
assist the ten Tackling Knives
Action Programme forces in further
building on the tough
approach towards those who
carry knives, which ACPO is
leading across the Police Service.”
The £100 million for the
Youth Crime Action Plan, published
in July, is also increasing
after-school patrols, Safer School
Partnerships and Operation
Staysafe more widely across the
country.
The Tackling Knives Action
Programme will run until March
2009 and is delivering tough
enforcement combined with education,
prevention work and
information campaigns designed
to keep youngsters on the right
track.
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